Foreward: Is there anything anyone can do to help out a gun shop in trouble? two men were wrongfully targeted by the BATF, tried, and found guilty by a federal jury of being willing parties in a "strawpurchase" scam. This absolutely did not happen the way it has been made to appear. The BATF framed these men, and tricked the jury into believing their story...


This happened to a father and son with a family FFL business in Warren, Michigan, Carney's Hunting and Shooters Supply. I am an insider who has spent A LOT of time at this gun shop. I know the way that they run their business. I've seen them turn away parties attempting to illegally aquire guns, I know for a fact they did not, nor would they ever do this. I can't stand to read the following is totally untrue I hope someone can help!!
Tim S.

Gun shop owners convicted of selling firearms to felons

By:Norb Franz, Macomb Daily Staff Writer March 08, 2003

A Warren man and his son who own a hunting supply business have been convicted of illegally selling pistols and high-powered rifles to felons who sold the weapons on the streets. A federal jury Thursday convicted federally licensed firearms dealers Patrick Joseph Carney, 68, and Sean Patrick Carney, 35, on charges of aiding and abetting false statements and selling firearms without recording information about the buyers.

United States Attorney Jeffrey Collins said the guns illegally sold from Carney's Hunting and Shooter's Supply included Intratec 9 mm handguns and AK-47 rifles, between February 2000 and June 2000.

"This case demonstrates that firearms dealers will be held criminally responsible when they recklessly sell firearms where all of the surrounding circumstances indicate that the gun is not for the person on the forms, but rather for a different individual who was not subject to a background check," Collins said.

On each of the purchases of 28 weapons, a "straw purchaser" completed paperwork and background checks with Detroit police, while unidentified convicted felons would select the guns, negotiate the price, pay for the weapon and leave Carney's with it.

"They should have known" better, said Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Bullotta, who prosecuted the case.

Patrick Carney was convicted on four counts of aiding and abetting false statements, and four counts of selling a firearm without buyer information, federal prosecutors said. The jury convicted Sean Carney on three counts of each offense, officials said.

Each count is punishable by up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Sentencing is scheduled for June 5 by U.S. District Judge Marianne O. Battani.

Cracking such weapons schemes is difficult, Bullotta said.

In the case at hand, eight women were paid approximately $50 by the gun buyers to serve as the straw purchasers. Detroit police became suspicious when the women failed to register guns after obtaining permits to buy the firearms. The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives subsequently conducted the investigation.

The females previously pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting a gun dealer in making a false statement in gun records, Bullotta said. Each was sentenced to two years probation and 40 hours of community service.

The initial trial for the Carneys resulted in a hung jury last year. As a result of their felony convictions this week, the Carneys were forced to get rid of their stock of more than 200 firearms in their store, located on Van Dyke near Eight Mile Road.

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